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The ways of Latin

This one is for Tanaquil, one of the few rare people I know who retains a passion for the Latin language, dead though it may be.

I was writing Wednesday night, in Latin as I tend to if only to keep it a part of me, and I penned the word, “appropinquāvērunt,” which seems a disasterably long word and wonderful to say. Writing it and then saying out aloud reminded me why it is I love the Latin language so much, still to this very day.

54 thoughts on “The ways of Latin

  1. Latin is such a cool language and will never die! Play japanese RPG games und you find many songs, descriptions, names or similar stuff in latin. 😉 😉

    Seriously, I can understand why you love this language so very much. It sounds beautiful, even if I would break my tongue, if I had to say the word “appropinquāvērunt.”

    However, one is for sure, with this post you make my sis very, very, very happy.
    Gratias ago. << umm is that right? XDD

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    1. Latin is truly a beautiful language when spoken. I think people assume that because all of the letters are spoken with harsh pronunciation that it would sound too abrupt, but I disagree wholeheartedly. When someone can roll their R sound just right, it’s like music to my ears.

      1. It really sounds like music.

        Oh, is there Latin songs you like? What music you like anyway?

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        1. Unfortunately, most music in Latin are church songs and tend to use the ecclesiastical pronunciation of certain letters or letter combinations such as “c,” “ch,” and “g,” which are considerably softer and more pleasant to the ears.

        2. Well, I have no problems with church songs but I would prefer a nice rock, metal or oper song in latin. Like “The one winged angel” oder “Liberi Fatali”. Do you like rock as well?

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        3. I do, but then I generally like music scattered throughout various musical genres. Of course, I listen to mostly classical music, but I also like some rock music.

        4. Ah Marius and rock. Well that sounds interesting. What bands or songs are favorite of yours?

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        5. I’m somewhat stuck in long gone eras of music. I enjoy “British Invasion” era of music, bands such as the Zombies, the Searchers, the Animals, the Hollies, etc. I also very much like music that fits into the 1980s gothic rock genre like the Mission (also known as the Mission UK depending on what country you are in), Sisters of Mercy, Siouxsie and the Banshees, and the Cure.

        6. Well, well, well, my Marius have a great taste of music! Of course I know, and like, the bands. Have you ever saw one (or more) of the bands life on stage?

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        7. My taste has always been quite impeccable, if I may say so outside boundaries of arrogance, or really accusations thereof. I attend concerts on a very regular basis because I am, for all my seeming anti-socialism, a very social creature. I have seen most of the more recent bands listed in concert. The 1980s was a glorious decade of musical scene.

          Tell me about your concert experiences. Have you seen your favourite band? And please, do tell me your favourite bands. I do love to learn things about you.

  2. How right you are, Marius. I love this language with my whole heart and this entry made me more than just a little happy. Thank you.

    It’s funny you mention this specific verb because I have a special realtionship with it. You already pointed out that it’s quite long and even though now I also agree on the nice sound of it, ‘appropinquare’ and its various conjugated forms raised considerable trouble in the past. I simply couldn’t say it when I had to learn the word for school. I had to practise several afternoons with and even now I have to pronounce it very carefully if I want to get the through the full conjugation series without mistakes.

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    1. I am certain you are not the only one who struggles with that particular word. That’s why it is so much easier to use some other preposition or verb. For some reason, in grammar school so long ago, I had the hardest time with adjective/noun agreement. Words like “domus” that can be in some instances deceiving in their gender confounded me in my young years.

      1. Well, in this case you would surly love German. There are no rules concerning the gender of nouns whatsoever.
        For me the hardest part about Latin is the non existent word order. Theoretically grammar makes it clear which words belong together and what is their function in the sentence but it’s not very intuitive. I basically learned English and Castellano by getting the basic grammar from school and then reading a lot. If the vocabulary is not too exotic I can read French texts without ever looking into a textbook and I know it’ll work the same with my current project, which is learning Catalá.
        In a Latin text I have to pay attention to every little grammar hint, otherwise I’m lost. The only text I can read without a dictionary and time consuming sentence-by-sentence translation is the Vulgata. Nice, short sentences, a manageable vocabulary and the contents is somewhat predictable.
        The last point it has in common with the bellum gallicum.

        PS: There’s a band calles Corvus corax, most of their lyrics are in Latin.

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        1. It seems that for many, the word order is what perplexes them. And this isn’t so much when translating a Latin text into another language, but rather when translating a native language into Latin. But everyone knows reading a language is far easier than writing in it or speaking it. They say that it is easy to read Latin because you have certain case endings that only apply to certain parts of a sentence like the subject or the direct object, and tenses have their own endings, and there are a limited number of declensions. But it’s not that easy.

          So something ends in an -ae, so it must be a feminine plural subject using the nominative case. Except it may not be. It could be genitive singular, or dative singular, or vocative plural. Then some say well, look at what it is referring to, the presence of the verbs or direct objects, but even that is not quite as cut and dry as Latin instructors would have you believe. It is a wonderful language, but horribly perplexing.

        2. I wonder if Latin was easier to learn if it would be taught like a modern language. But as it is, students are never encouraged to talk or write in Latin. It’s more like in maths: You learn rules and operations and algorithms which are applied on a problem/a text.

          I agree, it’s a wonderful language. I love it and I do my best to not forget everything I learned now that I’m out of school.

          But I’m glad English has replaced Latin as the language of science. My fellow students love to complain about having to read texts in English or doing speeches in English but I rather wonder how people where able to do all that in Latin in the past.

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        3. I have heard people say that they need never learn to speak Latin because no one speaks it anymore, but this incorrect. Academics speak it, and those in the sciences must learn to say it. Plus why would you wish to learn a language and never know how it was spoken? Of course, I prefer the Classical pronunciations, though many of my colleagues are historians of the Medieval period and they speak in Ecclesiastical pronunciation. There does need to be a greater emphasis on speech and writing, and that is why I always try to speak it often and write it as much as I can.

          Of course Romans had their own vernacular language, the language of the common people spoken, or what is known as vulgar Latin of the Classical period (and not the vulgarisation of Latin that led to the creation of the Romance languages though Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages) such as you would see on mainly Pompeian graffiti and in the literary works of Catullus, Plautus, and Patronius.

  3. I hope its ok that I start a new post. The other was getting to small. XD

    Ha. Indeed, some outsiders could think that´s arrogance. But what first came into my mind was: “Yep, that´s Marius, I love it! *grin. However, your music taste is very good, so why not say the truth? Besides, you say it in such a elegant way. So you have my official permission to be self-confident. 😉

    Me and my music taste. Ha. Actually an impossible task to list them all, mainly because there are a lot of Japanese game soundtracks and they will say nothing to you. However, lets give it a try. My music taste is very wide-ranging. The only genre I don´t like is Rap and HipHop and this kind of stuff.

    As I said, I like the bands you listed. 🙂

    Like Armand I´m a Apocalyptica fan and I had the chance to see them in the year 1997. The concert was amazing. No one was standing as usual at a concert of this type. Everyone had a seat and it was noble. That music have power.
    Trans siberian orchestra is a great band. Especially “Mozart’s last night” (the story is a bit like “Faust”) and the song “Christmas Eve Sarajevo”.
    Field Rotation is good stuff too.

    Then, of course, 80s music, heavy metal, goth music and some Industrial. Like Depeche Mode, ASP, Lacrimosa, Rammstein, Subway to sally, Sopor Aeternus, Nightwish, L’Âme Immortelle, Coppelius, Eisbrecher, Wumpscut, Dreadful Shadows, Kamelot, London after midight, Inkubus Sukkubus, Lordi, Oomph, Megaherz, Nellee Hooper, Blood hunt gang, Queen, Cinema Bizarre, Pixis. ect.

    I saw Nightwish, Sonata Arctica, APS, Subway, L’Âme Immortelle, Coppelius, Moi dix Mois, HIM…oh so many bands live on stage. Moi dix Mois was very impressiv (it´s a Japanese band). They had almost no stage show but the mystical presence was breathtaking.

    I enjoy pop music, like Michael Jackson, Madonna.

    You can mak me happy with movie soundtrack. Lord of the rings, Disney, Gladiator, Hellsing. Just to name 4.

    I love, of course, calssic very, very much. Beethoven, Mozart, Haydn, Carl Orff’s Carmina Burana ect. I love musicals and saw a few of them. If I had more money I would be every weekend in a musical. *laugh* My favorte musicals are “The Phantom of the Opera” I was 8 years old as I fall in love with that musical and Eric. Yeap, the Phantom was my first and big love. *laugh* Also, I love the musical “Tanz der Vampire” (Dance of the vampires). Mucial meets rock! Thats really cool.

    I like japanese Visual Kei bands music (Rock, goth, heay metal) and I´m a big fan of (japanese) videogame music. I mean, a REALLY big fan. But I will name only 3 Composers who comes in my mind first. Nobuo Uematsu write great music. “The one winged angel” will ever be a favorite of mine. There is a classic version of it, and a heavy metal version of it. I adore both. And at my funeral is this one song (of two songs) that should played. hehe. The music of Yuki Kajuira is breathtaking. She worte masterpieces for the Xenosaga chronic. I love the music of the Castalvania Chronic. Many Composers write pieces for it. Michiru Yamane for example. “Dance of illusions”, “Vampire killer” and “Bloody tears” are my favorites.

    And before I die, I MUST see a “final fantasy in concert” concert. I will not die until I’ve seen one. Don´t grin, that is deadly dead serious 😉 😉

    As I can see, you read “The Hobbit”, like me. (I just started) I must confess, its the first time for me. I was always more a LotR fan ^^ And like many others I adore the elves and the Nazgûl. ^^ And I guess I´m the only one who like Grima Wormtongue. (and I hate the spider. Blah.) My favorite elves are Glorfindel and Elrond. ^^ But as heard Thranduil should be great as well. Will you check out the movie?

    Ok my work calls ^.^ I must go to the museum.

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    1. It is certainly alright that you make a new conversation when the older ones are too small.

      Self-confidence I have in excess, though I hope never to the point where people find me intolerable. I think one can be both self-confident and humble at the same time. I generally accept all compliments because it would be rude to deny a person their opinion, and also because if a quality in you is worth recognition, you should be allowed the simple pleasure of knowing so. When someone tells me that I am very intelligent, I say, “Thank you.” And then I move on. I don’t feign modesty and deny it. And neither do I ever seek prove them right. Because I have no need to rub it in, lord it over others, or prove my intelligence. I have nothing to prove to anyone. I think that is what lets me stay confident without becoming intolerably arrogant.

      Apocalyptica sounds very familiar. I confess I have likely never heard a song of theirs, but I have certainly heard of the band before. And I know for certain I have heard the music of Depeche Mode, Lacrimosa, Rammstein, Sopor Aeternus, Nightwish, L’Âme Immortelle, :wumpscut:, London After Midight, Inkubus Sukkubus, Queen, Cinema Bizarre, Nightwish, Sonata Arctica, L’Âme Immortelle, Moi dix Mois, and HIM. Some obviously more than others as a few are only names that I recall, like Apocalyptia, without songs of which to attach.

      Do you get to attend the theatre often?

      Is Final Fantasy in concert something that is done often?

      Since you enjoy so much videogame music, are you an avid video game player?

      I have read the Hobbit quite a few times and recently even ordered a copy of it that I found printed in Latin, which I look forward to reading when the new year begins. The Lord of the Rings is an amazing trilogy of books, and when compared to the very short and less elaborate Hobbit novel, certain seems to overshadow. I too have always liked the Elves most of all. They military is very Roman-esque to me, and as you know I love things that are both beautiful and luminescent. And they are a race of creature that seem to love beauty, fine things, knowledge, and respectable power as much as I do.

      1. Do you think you would have such a big self-confidence If you wouldn’t be a vampire?

        Indeed, self-confident is not arrogance, so I think one can be both self-confident and humble at the same time as well.

        Hmmm … accept all compliments because it would be rude to deny a person their opinion …*Laugh* Very clever to put it in that way. Ok, you said, you -generally-accept all compliments, which compliments, I wonder, do you not accept?

        Yes, I see it in my mind, when someone tells you that you are very intelligent, and you say, “Thank you” , and you add in your thoughts: “Congratulations for your good eye, you are right, of course!” I must admit I like that thought. lol. One is for sure my love, you can be very crafty. *rawr*

        I remember that you posted a song from “Malice Mizer” on the forum, but you didn´t know the band. *laugh* That was very amusing. I don’t know why but sometimes you remind me of Einstein.

        Unfortunately, I don´t get the opportunity to go to the theatre often. I am even more on stage than in the audience. The last time I watched a play was with Michelle 1 or 2 years ago. The name of the play was, Arsenic and Old Lace. ^.^ It was a funny and great evening.

        The most of the Final Fantasy songs are from Nobuo Uematsu-sama and a FF concert is rare in the west. In Germany, the concerts are always in very large cities, where I would have to stay for one night, which is expensive. >.< Besides, the cards are always sold out so quickly. You have no longer than two days to get one. So you need a lot of money for such a concert. But I swear it, one day I will see a FF concert. I will hear "the one winged angel"- with this adorable Latin choir- at least one time live on stage!!

        *smile* Yes of course. I adore videogames and I love to play Japanese Role play games (RPG). I need a great and deep story, with awesome characters and music. (Not only, rescue the princess and kill the bad guy. I don´t enjoy this shooter and slaughter games. brrr) The game play, of course, should be good as well. The Japanese games are perfect for that. Interestingly, especially the old games for Playstation 1 and Playstation 2 are damn deep. I´m 1000% sure, that there are games where you would love the story.

        Since I am a big fan of Asian martial arts, I also like playing Beat´n´up games. (Fight games like Tekken or Soul Calibur). The Japanese Beat´n´up game´s have a, more or less, good story as well. At least for a beat´n´up game.

        Of course, there are some adventure games I like to play as well, like Castlevania or Shadow of memories. But most of the time I play RPG´s.

        One year ago I had the luck to visit the Tokyo game show. I almost went crazy. So many cool and great games. XD It was the second time I was in Japan and I always fall in love with the Japanese people.

        O.O The Hobbit…in Latin?? You making fun of me. There is really a Latin version of the book?? How amazing, Michelle needs to know that.
        Are there more modern novels in Latin?

        Of course, the elves are the best. And we love them from the same reason. Oh and by the way, I would not mind to have an elf as a boyfriend. *laugh*
        Have you a favourite Elf(s)? Or a favourite parts in the books?

        Do you know "The Silmarillion"? It´s a collection of J. R. R. Tolkien's mythopoeic works. I see it as a History and Philosophy Book of middelearth. ^^

        So far as I know, Armand has all albums of Apocalyptica at home. 😉
        Some of my favorites:

        Harmageddon

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptCjhwP0Ibk

        Quutamo
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G3Ny7ACtqM

        Path
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWoNKQHqoVs

        Nothing else matters
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9VxH4y_T6I

        Beethoven's Symphony No.5
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI4rcxHDANM

        Ah I must confess, it is really amazing and delicious to read lines from you. And yes, now you can say "Thank you". 😉 😉

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        1. Would I have so much confidence? Perhaps not. I was a very confident human man, though I think my confidence now is in part fed by the knowledge of my own considerable infallibility. Not absolute, of course.

          “Hmmm … accept all compliments because it would be rude to deny a person their opinion …*Laugh* Very clever to put it in that way. Ok, you said, you -generally-accept all compliments, which compliments, I wonder, do you not accept?”

          Thank you. I label that as elegant and modest arrogance.

          Which ones would I not accept? Ones that are veiled insults. Like “You are surprisingly intelligent.” Surprisingly? Why is this a surprise? That’s not a very nice compliment to say “You seem like an idiot, but you’re not. Well done, you!”

          Remind you of Einstein? Why? Is it my amazing ability to discard information that people consider “common”? Or did you discover my secret that I am bad at maths and have terrible hair?

          Yes, I am the type to say “thank you,” though sometimes I forget my manners and reply with a simple “yes” to confirm that they are correct. I’ve little patience often for false modesty. I see so many people reply with a shy “no, I am not” because they are told that modesty is an important trait in a person. But I think if a person is intelligent, they have the right to own up to it. It is yours, so take pride in it. Is this your special way of reading a person? You put the full measure of my arrogance to light, you know, as I do congratulate people in my head for having enough wit to recognise my own. Because it is a special thing to meet someone whose wit matches your own; you know then you are in company with someone who can appreciate you, and in exchange that you can appreciate.

          And I am very crafty, and also very subtle. It is why I usually get what I want when I want it, if it is worth putting in the effort.

          So you act more than you watch. What then is the name of the last play or production you acted or sang or performed in?

          I hope that you do get to see your Final Fantasy concert, as we should all experience the pleasure of getting the one thing we want most in the world. Or at least have some of our dreams come true.

          I agree that RPGs are the best sort of games. They have much more depth than, as you say, shooters and games where you just beat others up. I like that increasingly, they are making the plots of RPGs more complicated so that every decision made has consequences. There is no right or wrong decision.

          I would love to go to a game show in Tokyo. Tokyo is an amazing city just to wander around in. They are such creative people. I cannot blame you for falling in love with the Japanese people again and again.

          And yes, there is certainly a Latin translation of the Hobbit out now, though it was only recently done and only released in the last few months.

          I just this month acquired a copy of it.

          There are a few good “modern” books now published in Latin:
          Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone- http://www.amazon.it/Harrius-Potter-Philosophi-Lapis-Philosophers/dp/1582348251/
          Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets- http://www.amazon.it/Harrius-Potter-2-Camera-Secretorum/dp/0747588775/
          The Hobbit- http://www.amazon.it/Hobbitus-Ille-Ronald-Reuel-Tolkien/dp/0007445210/
          Fairy Tales in Latin- http://www.amazon.it/Fairy-Tales-Victor-Barocas/dp/0781807875/
          Alice in Wonderland- http://www.amazon.it/Alicia-Terra-Mirabili-Lewis-Carroll/dp/1904808697/
          The Little Prince- http://www.amazon.it/Regulus-Latin-Antoine-De-Saint-Exupery/dp/0156014041/
          Winnie the Pooh- http://www.amazon.it/Winnie-Ille-Pu-A-Milne/dp/014015339X/

          Elves are the best, I agree. I have to say if I had to pick a favourite, I would choose Thranduil. I do indeed know of The Silmarillion. I am almost certain I have a copy of it somewhere around here, though it may be with hundreds of other boxes languishing in boxes that I simply haven’t put up. And it has been ages since I have read it. Perhaps I have an ebook copy on my computer somewhere.

          I am not surprised Armand likes that particular band. You must know it is a pleasure to learn anything about him because he tells me so very little.

  4. A logical and plausible answer. Now let’s play with our fantasy. Imagine, by some miracle, you would be a mortal again. How much of your self-confidence would remain? You still have your knowledge , but no vamp anymore power. …Would that be terrifying for you?

    Ah I yes true. But this “compliments” are not really compliments. I hate that veiled insults. How do you react if someone is so rude to you?

    Ha. You get me…almost. Much like Michelle and Einstein, you have a distracted scientist/professor touch. One reason you remind me of Einstein. That you could be not the best at math, was just a guess, I admit. Umm well for the hair…perhaps it was a guess as well. … or a logical conclusion. When someone is sometimes a bit like a crazy scientist or artist, that person maybe has crazy hair as well. …It’s the same for me. XD My hair is a mess, simply impossible to tame. ^^

    In your eyes, when is it false modesty and when is it true modesty? Where is the line, where the difference?

    Haha. Perhaps. But in the end, I have plenty of ways to read people. In real life, of course, It’s much easier than in the Internet. In the I-net it’s almost impossible to get more than 50%. You must know the person for a long time to know what’s true and what’s a lie.
    In your case, well, should I really tell you some secrets? A vampire told me once – as if I wouldn’t know that- Never trust a vampire! …Hmmm…Oh well, no risk, no fun. One, two ways to read people. Here we go. Firstly, I have experience and a good knowledge of human nature, that always helps a lot!
    In your case, I “know” you from the books so it’s a tiny bit easier for me. I know you from the forum and I read your words here very carefully. How you talk to the others or to me, how you write your reports, the choice of words you use and when you use what word in which sentence etc. Many things a person does are unconsciously.
    A small and simple example, if you do it on purpose or not, I do not know, but sometimes you adjust to my modern and simple English language. That makes sure that I get it to 100% ^^ That’s very nice indeed and shows a caring and or adjustable character. And old man or not, you have a young or a fresh spirit in you. Not the youngest but it’s there.
    From this consideration, I can make a theoretical character model. Next step, If you have the character of a person you can draw logical conclusions. Pretty simple example: Louis would never think: ” I’m the best man on earth, I buy cool clothes now and make love with 10 mortals in this night.” I think you get the point.
    Apart from that fact, I can feel myself into other people very well. In this case my thoughts were: “If I would be Marius and think, feel and talk like Marius, talk to me here, how would I think or react when this or that is happening .?” (Sometimes I ask a person about something just to see if my guess is right.) This all together is one way to read a person. ^^ Pretty simple, I know, but effective. Hehe. So and in this little, special case your thoughts where logical. Logical that you congratulate people in your head for having enough wit to recognize you and your Abilities.
    I would think that If I were you. You show up here ery similar as you appear in the books. This is typical “The vampire Marius”.

    What was the last thing you really wanted and then took?

    Most of the time I´m on stage with my rococo group. That’s dancing and we don’t really have a story. Of course we have shows on TV as well. The most gigs are in Germany. But the US, Japan, Italian and French TV filmed us too.

    The last play I played was for a student film. They even got the best grade and an honor. It was pretty cool. I played an immortal, evil witch (I´m very mean to vampires in that movie. hehe).

    Thanks. I´m sure someday I can visit a FF concert. And who knows, perhaps I have the chance to see it in Japan one day. Of course I will tell you if that should happen.

    Ok Armand and Danny know what RPGs are, and they play games from time to time, but that you know whats going on surprises me a bit. Have you ever watched or played a RPG game? If yes, which one?

    The last game I “played” was a visual novel game. What means you have a story, like a book, and make from time to time decisions. To get all endings it’s a hard piece of work. And there are right or wrong decisions. When you make the wrong decision the Main protagonist (you) or another character dies. And that is a game over.
    I have a visual novel at home were you MUST die to get all Items you need to create the Philosopher’s stone. It´s my favorite novel game. And when you love Faust, you love that game 😀 Of course there are games of all genres. Fantasy, History, horror, Goth, love stories, pornography, yaoi, action, children stories, ect.
    My last visual novel game was about history (old Japan and samurai) with a fantasy and lovestory touch. There was a character in that story who was a bit like Armand. *laugh* (and yes, he was one of 3 favorite characters of mine).

    To bad for you that the Tokyo game show is only open by day. But I have some photos and a short video. 😀
    You visited Tokyo already? Tokyo Is truly amazing. It’s a cold town but amazing. On my last visit to Tokyo we stayed at a hotel in Shinjuku. Perhaps you know what’s going on in Shinjuku at night. Nowhere in Tokyo it’s so very loud and nowhere in Tokyo you will find so many beautiful and nice people like in Shinjuku. Men and women alike. And the host boys are adorable and so very handsome. I was speechless. The hostess ladies, of course, were beautiful as well. A nice snack for any vamp,really.

    If you’re ever in Japan, visit Odaiba and ride the Ferris wheel. At day its great but only at night its stunning.

    For my next trip to Japan I plan to visit the whole country. Not “only” Tokyo. But I don’t want to fly alone, simply because of my health. AND because I have NO, really NO, sense of direction. I think Michelle finds that very cute. lol.

    Well, well, well, do I see there a book by Seamus Heaney? Which is it? I cannot read the title.
    And Richard Erdoes? It’s the book A.D. 1000: Living on the Brink of Apocalypse I guess? Maybe I should think it over again and go for a marriage proposal. Ah wait that could be a bit tricky, Santino has me already and I don’t want that you are put on fire again. *sigh*
    Seriously, apart from Winnie the Pooh, these are all books I love or like. And now I will be arrogant and maintain that you have a good taste.

    Thanks for the links!!!!! Michelle must know this! Then she can read the stories to me in Latin. YAY.

    Ah yes, Thranduil is really hot stuff.
    I love the Genesis of Middelearth. The only difficult thing about the Silmarillion are the millions of different names. Sometimes it confuses me. @.@

    Lol. What do you want to know about Armand? I´m an Armand expert, you know? Once he said something like, I´m too much around or I spend to much time with him. *grins

    1. It would be immeasurably terrifying, but wonderful. For the first time in longer than I can remember, I would have to worry about where people cough, how much sleep to get, whether I need deodourant, what foods make my stomach ill, and all of those human things that I am not accustomed to. The utter frailty of the body would come as the most shock, and it would take a great considerable time for me to get used to the limitations of my human body. I dare say I may never quite get the hang of being mortal again. But make no mistake, I would saver the world with as much humble appreciation as always, and even more so that I was in a state of temporary existence. I do not have to live life to the fullest with each day because my days are endless.

      I have a very thick skin, as one would imagine. So insults are never quite effective. The only insults that hurt come from people I care about, or people I want to respect me. If a stranger or an acquaintance were to insult me, I brush it off. It is meaningless to be hurt by little things, especially when little things can grow so impossibly large.

      Have I ever told you that I love men with impossibly messy curly dark hair? It is one of my few remaining weaknesses.

      False modesty is when we use modesty to appear like we are full of grace, but compliments feed ego. True modesty is not to deny compliments, but to accept them with the understanding that we are not superior to others because we may be better in some way to them, as everyone has something to offer that others may lack. It is to know that we can gracefully and gratefully accept the things that make us “impressive,” but never put ourselves on a pedestal or throne because of them. I accept it when people tell me I am intelligent, creative, or handsome. But I do not imagine that this makes me somehow better than the person standing next to me.

      A small and simple example, if you do it on purpose or not, I do not know, but sometimes you adjust to my modern and simple English language. That makes sure that I get it to 100% ^^ That’s very nice indeed and shows a caring and or adjustable character. And old man or not, you have a young or a fresh spirit in you. Not the youngest but it’s there.

      How wonderfully observant of you. And here I thought I was being sly, but you caught me. I do try very hard to make sure we can communicate well, and language is so versatile there is no excuse for misunderstanding.

      From this consideration, I can make a theoretical character model. Next step, If you have the character of a person you can draw logical conclusions. Pretty simple example: Louis would never think: ” I’m the best man on earth, I buy cool clothes now and make love with 10 mortals in this night.” I think you get the point.

      You have to know that I laughed quite hard. No, I cannot imagine Louis saying such a thing, but the mental image in my head was absolutely delightful.

      Typical vampire Marius… yes sadly there is a saying about old dogs and new tricks. I am nothing if not true to myself. Or at least I try to be. Sometimes I quite dislike myself, so I give myself over to make believe and illusion. While comforting, it is really very frustrating and disappointing.

      You played a vampire, hm? Did you get to bite anyone? Or at least pretend to?

      I have seen quite many RPGs in my life. I know the kind done in person like Dungeons and Dragons, RuneQuest, and Vampire the Masquerade, though I admit I have never played them unless you count the Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines PC game that was released so, so very long ago. I remember some of the very first video game RPGs… Ultima on the Atari, Mystic Quest on the Super Nintendo, the very first Final Fantasy game, Gauntlet… the list is impossibly endless. Of course none were as good as what was on the Playstation when that was developed because then we got Final Fantasy VII and Legend of Dragoon, among other entertainments. I still play RPG games because I find them curiously immersible, and the imagination that goes into them is impressive. Even more so, they get increasingly real and complex. What I like most about the current games, is that decision changes the course of events at every turn. There is no “game over” when you choose the wrong option, but there are consequences that alter how the game progresses. There is direct cause and effect.

      Between you and me, our secret, I love Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age: Awakening, and even Dragon Age II. I have played Dragon Age: Origins at least ten times. I never get bored of it. I also have a few of the Elder Scroll series, specifically Oblivion and Skyrim. And I still have Final Fantasy VII on my Playstation 3. It is the same game, absolutely nothing changed.

      I have never heard of visual novel games, but now I must seek some out and play them. I get so very bored, you see.

      I would love to go back to Tokyo, and visit more of the “adult” establishments. To be honest, I prefer the Japanese men to the woman, not that the women are not lovely. But the men are so beautiful that they provide too much of a distraction. I remember Shinjuku because I ended up in an establishment that caught me quite by surprise because they were putting on a very candid sex show pertaining to the giving and taking of pain. I believe the establishment was called Loft.

      Ah, my book by Seamus Heaney is his translation of Beowulf, which is my very favourite translation of that particular work. Sometimes I make my students read it and write about it because exposure to good literature is essential for any good University education worth its money. They are always horrified that the book bears little resemblance to the movie. Yet I find the book useful in discussions about ancient history and how mythology was once a valid means of telling history, and how literature of old stands as some of the only evidence we have of the past.

      And yes, the other book is A.D. 1000: Living on the Brink of Apocalypse, though I admit I haven’t read it. I got it as a gift probably a decade ago. I will get around to it eventually.

      So you are engaged to our delightfully sociopathic, and likely at least borderline Histrionic, Santino? My goodness, you poor darling. Be careful or else you could find yourself housed in a dreary tomb somewhere in Southern France. It isn’t as charming as it sounds, to say the least.

      So you are the Armand expect that I must come to. You do realise you are nearly situated as a “middleman” of sorts through which I can satiate my curiosity, and also appease my antisocial tendencies? Wonderful.

      1. It would be immeasurably terrifying, but wonderful. For the first time in longer than I can remember, I would have to worry about where people cough, how much sleep to get, whether I need deodourant, what foods make my stomach ill, and all of those human things that I am not accustomed to. The utter frailty of the body would come as the most shock, and it would take a great considerable time for me to get used to the limitations of my human body. I dare say I may never quite get the hang of being mortal again. But make no mistake, I would saver the world with as much humble appreciation as always, and even more so that I was in a state of temporary existence. I do not have to live life to the fullest with each day because my days are endless.

        I wouldn’t say a vampire life is the better life but what you just listed is “romantic” and cool, at least in theory.
        What would be the first thing you’d do if human again? Despite watching the sun. Would you like to stay human?

        I have a very thick skin, as one would imagine. So insults are never quite effective. The only insults that hurt come from people I care about, or people I want to respect me. If a stranger or an acquaintance were to insult me, I brush it off. It is meaningless to be hurt by little things, especially when little things can grow so impossibly large.

        That’s a bit strange to me, sometimes I have a thick skin, sometimes not.
        But in the end it’s easy to hurt me . That doesn’t mean it’s possible to break me though. No matter what’s done to me, I stay true to the light and I always get up again.
        Really? Oh that’s so cool and great! I wish I could feel and act like you in that case.

        Have I ever told you that I love men with impossibly messy curly dark hair? It is one of my few remaining weaknesses.

        * laugh* I had NO Idea!! Oh, darn! I´m not a man and I have just messy, straight hairs. Oh well, but its funny to know!! 😀

        False modesty is when we use modesty to appear like we are full of grace, but compliments feed ego. True modesty is not to deny compliments, but to accept them with the understanding that we are not superior to others because we may be better in some way to them, as everyone has something to offer that others may lack. It is to know that we can gracefully and gratefully accept the things that make us “impressive,” but never put ourselves on a pedestal or throne because of them.

        Ah ok, but…when I get a compliment and I have doubts, I can not believe or cannot imagine it, I say it. I don´t mean it in a bad way or want hear some more. Why should I? I can’t imagine it’s meant for me anyway. XD So, I dont think I have false modesty …at least I hope not >.<

        I accept it when people tell me I am intelligent, creative, or handsome. But I do not imagine that this makes me somehow better than the person standing next to me.

        Thats really cool! And modest indeed. 🙂 I´m proud of you, a good murderer you are!

        How wonderfully observant of you. And here I thought I was being sly, but you caught me. I do try very hard to make sure we can communicate well, and language is so versatile there is no excuse for misunderstanding.

        Maybe I was just lucky?

        You are really the most considerate vampire I know. And I am eternally grateful. You do a great job, I understand you well. Only now and then I need Michelle´s help. Of course, for my answer text I need Michelle or Paul much more. I use lots of quotations, slang or proverbs in german. It never noticed that before my time on SR or my english speaking friends. ^^

        But hey, why not a little German round? What means:

        Sein oder nicht sein?

        Sein Anblick gibt den Engeln Stärke.

        And here, it looks mean but you know it!!!! No need to translate it of course, just guess from which book that is:

        “Nicht rechne ich meine Kraft geringer im redlichen Ringen als Grendels Macht. Drum will ich nicht mit würgendem Schwerte sein Leben kürzen. Auch wenn ich’s leicht könnte. Wenn der Unhold auch stark sein mag, so versteht er doch nicht, mit gezückten Stahl dem stürmenden Feind die Stirn bieten, den Schild zu zerhauen, den Helm zu spalten. Nicht kundig ist er des Kampfes mit Wehr und Waffen, rauft er als Riese, nicht ritterlich freilich, doch mit furchtbarer Stärke. Drum besteh’ ich die Fehde ohne Schwert. So will ich’s! Wenn dann der Würger den Angriff wagt, lege der Schlachtenlenker den Sieg in die Hände dessen, der würdig ihn dünkt!”

        You have to know that I laughed quite hard. No, I cannot imagine Louis saying such a thing, but the mental image in my head was absolutely delightful.

        XDDD I didn’t even mean to be g´funny this time,. I just gave the simplest example I could think of, to explain what I meant in a clear and easy way. Why take something difficult if I have the choice? But of course it’s great if I made you laugh and when I read my lines again now, I have to smile as well.

        Typical vampire Marius… yes sadly there is a saying about old dogs and new tricks. I am nothing if not true to myself. Or at least I try to be. Sometimes I quite dislike myself, so I give myself over to make believe and illusion. While comforting, it is really very frustrating and disappointing.

        What is the biggest illusion you have from yourself?
        Ha. I know that feeling of frustration and disappointment of myself.
        Yeah but you are a adorable old dog with great old tricks. That´s not that bad at all! And hey, your master behavior can have sex appeal and is surely funny in bed! Does your male ego feel better now? 😀

        You played a vampire, hm?

        Yep, and because a vamp must be evil, I was an evil vamp! Not such a cute one like Santi, a nice one like you or depressed one like Louis, really not. Of course, the most male vamps couldn´t be mad with me. And the few who have tried it … well … let’s say, I didn´t have to make my hands dirty. I can play the helpless woman very well. Besides, I always wore a corset. No need to say more. Oh by the way, there were 1, 2 men who knew that I just play the helpless one, and I knew it that they knew it. But still, do you think I would have refused their help? …. Would YOU leave me alone? Please…Don´t break my innocent heart…

        Did you get to bite anyone? Or at least pretend to?

        Oh, why did I know you’d ask that question? AH, how was it back then? I started to play with 20. I was of the Ventrue clan and quickly I became the prince’s right hand and consultant. I had 3 favorite clans: Ventrue-the powerful, noble one, Toreador-the noble artists and the Makavians-the insane ones. In the end I decided for the Ventrue. They were masters of control and the clan of kings. I thought that fitting and it sounded like lots of fun. Funnily, I always had “relationships” with clans/vampires which are arch enemies of the Ventrues. Well, I never fit in any shape^^
        I met my ex-boyfriend playing “vampire”. Of course he was in the “wrong” clan and on my first evening he wanted to cut me in half with a claymore. I had just joined and at once I was declared prey of blood hunt, ONLY because I had helped to destroy another vampire. Who would have thought vampires are so fussy and resentful? Pff.

        Of course everyone’s hunting behaviour had been set in advance. I decided for a Pandora-Lestat variant. But as a vamp one has to be evil and I left out this codex of “only kill the evildoers”. 😛 That would have been much too laborious for a Ventrue anyway. Yes, I had a child for some time, but for me she was nothing but cannon fodder… I was a bad girl as a vamp. So I sank my fangs into the neck of a young woman who was unlucky enough to become my child.
        Now you surly want to know if I allowed somebody near my own neck? Although I was always the aloof one, yes, I granted this favor to one. (How often did you already imagine to nibble on my neck, mh? :p Do I see a guilty smile flashing across your lips? Ha.)

        However, he was the most powerful in the game and his name was Pater Gregorius. He fascinated me and he had this evil charm, humor and he was very educated.
        Until today we’re not sure which one of the two of us really had the upper hand. It was an interesting game of power which I enjoyed a lot. This was only in-game of course. Out-game I had my boyfriend who by the way never became my friend in the game. On the contrary, we were enemies and he dared to speak against my Pater. That was utterly unacceptable of course.

        I have seen quite many RPGs in my life. I know the kind done in person like Dungeons and Dragons, RuneQuest, and Vampire the Masquerade, though I admit I have never played them unless you count the Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines PC game that was released so, so very long ago. I remember some of the very first video game RPGs… Ultima on the Atari, Mystic Quest on the Super Nintendo, the very first Final Fantasy game, Gauntlet… the list is impossibly endless. Of course none were as good as what was on the Playstation when that was developed because then we got Final Fantasy VII and Legend of Dragoon, among other entertainments. I still play RPG games because I find them curiously immersible, and the imagination that goes into them is impressive. Even more so, they get increasingly real and complex. What I like most about the current games, is that decision changes the course of events at every turn. There is no “game over” when you choose the wrong option, but there are consequences that alter how the game progresses. There is direct cause and effect.

        I know Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines PC but I never played it. I was always true to game consols, not the pc.
        Mystic Quest is the worst RPG ever. XD
        YOU know FF 7? If I wouldn´t adore and love you already, now I would do it!

        Between you and me, our secret, I love Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age: Awakening, and even Dragon Age II. I have played Dragon Age: Origins at least ten times. I never get bored of it. I also have a few of the Elder Scroll series, specifically Oblivion and Skyrim. And I still have Final Fantasy VII on my Playstation 3. It is the same game, absolutely nothing changed.

        Awww that’s a wonderful passion you share with me. Of course I know Dragon Age, the Elder Scroll series, and Oblivion, but just by name or some trailers. Wanna tell me about it?
        XDD You not only know, but you love FF7??? * I’m fainting, hold me!
        I know the feeling, I never get bored of it either. I have all PS1 and PS2 games still at home and of course FF7 on PSP / PS3 😀

        I have never heard of visual novel games, but now I must seek some out and play them. I get so very bored, you see.

        For me it’s really fun but I don’t know if you will find a lot of visual novel games in the west, except you want a hentai game. But…I still think an only porno game is boring. But perhaps men see that with different eyes.
        I know the feeling to get so very bored ^^

        I would love to go back to Tokyo, and visit more of the “adult” establishments. To be honest, I prefer the Japanese men to the woman, not that the women are not lovely. But the men are so beautiful that they provide too much of a distraction. I remember Shinjuku because I ended up in an establishment that caught me quite by surprise because they were putting on a very candid sex show pertaining to the giving and taking of pain. I believe the establishment was called Loft.

        Ah yes that would be interesting. I would love to see such a host club. Only for observing. I don’t know the songs and I can’t speak Japanese. And English doesn’t help much. However for such an evening you need a LOT of money. I have not 1000 – 10 000 (or more) Euro in my pocket. And certainly not for just one evening.
        Well, of course I prefer Japanese men. XD I’m absolutely boring and just hetero. But I know what you mean and I share your opinion.
        2 of my fave japanese men.

        Klaha
        http://muslib.ru/pb/92/920464/klaha_2786272.jpg

        Kenichi Matsuyama
        http://ddramatards.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/o336828-cb325.jpg

        But still, Asian women and men are my beauty ideals. I would love to have such a face and body. XD But nooooooo, I have to be a German-Austrian woman with Italian roots. Such insolence.

        Loft? Hmm I only know this one here:
        http://www.virtualjapan.com/wiki/Shinjuku_Loft

        Ah, my book by Seamus Heaney is his translation of Beowulf, which is my very favourite translation of that particular work. Sometimes I make my students read it and write about it because exposure to good literature is essential for any good University education worth its money. They are always horrified that the book bears little resemblance to the movie. Yet I find the book useful in discussions about ancient history and how mythology was once a valid means of telling history, and how literature of old stands as some of the only evidence we have of the past.

        I don’t know the whole book, only parts of it but I’m surprised you’re not using it for your lessons. It’s a great choice and fascinating in a historical, mythological and lingual way. I love that kind of language. I’m a fan of old German poetry… damn, why did I never do that at school?

        And yes, the other book is A.D. 1000: Living on the Brink of Apocalypse, though I admit I haven’t read it. I got it as a gift probably a decade ago. I will get around to it eventually.

        Haha, I just know it by name and I’ve been told a little. Should you read it and think it’s good, you have to tell me more.

        So you are engaged to our delightfully sociopathic, and likely at least borderline Histrionic, Santino?

        Yep, and the best thing is he doesn’t know he’s been punished with me. Will you be my bride’s father? I don’t have a father, so I’m in need of someone. lol.
        Santino has more than just one personality disorder, one reason I find him so funny.

        My goodness, you poor darling. Be careful or else you could find yourself housed in a dreary tomb somewhere in Southern France. It isn’t as charming as it sounds, to say the least.

        OMG I adore you! *laugh * It’s terrible with me, isn’t it? Wanna protect me from him?
        Really? But tombs are cool! …ok except the spiders who live in them. Oh and I said him already that this satan stuff is childish and stupid. (That was in the second PM for him. Lol) So he will never get on my nerves with that. Besides, he’s not into that anymore.

        So you are the Armand expect that I must come to.

        You bet, I fell in love with him when I was 13 years and 9…or 11 month. I sucked in every word of him like a vampire sucks in the blood. As an Armand lover I’m very critically in all things concerning him, even touchy. When I read Armand’s words on SR I though: Yep, that’s Armand.
        If I say so that means a lot. And yes, I’m arrogant in this matter. ^///^

        He still owes me one Armand & Lestat story :p He has mentioned he has finished it. ^^ However, I’m sure that I can give you good information. Ask whatever you want and as long as it has nothing to do with my person I´m very good.

        You do realise you are nearly situated as a “middleman” of sorts through which I can satiate my curiosity, and also appease my antisocial tendencies? Wonderful.

        Well, a satisfied Marius is something nice. And a minion wants always that the master is happy. What would you do without us, vampire?

        Yes I am aware of that but I will never get any problems, in the end I can always say “The bad, powerful vamp has forces me to do it!” 🙁 Anyone would believe me that 😀

        1. What would be the first thing you’d do if human again? Despite watching the sun. Would you like to stay human?

          I would want to immediately begin to eat.

          I would without a doubt not want to stay human. I like being strong, being immortal. There is nothing in this world that anyone could offer me that would make mortality worth what I would lose.

          I suffer my fate from time to time, but I have also come to prize it.

          That’s a bit strange to me, sometimes I have a thick skin, sometimes not.
          But in the end it’s easy to hurt me . That doesn’t mean it’s possible to break me though. No matter what’s done to me, I stay true to the light and I always get up again.

          Being hurt is normal and natural, I am just abnormal in that regard. But then I always have been.

          Hurt isn’t harmful as long as it doesn’t do anything more than hurt in temporary measure. It is only bad when it begins to change the way we see the world, and worst of all, ourselves.

          Nicht rechne ich meine Kraft geringer im redlichen Ringen als Grendels Macht. …

          Ah but that is Beowulf. One glance and I see the name “Grendel.”

          What is the biggest illusion you have from yourself?

          That I am wise.

          Oh by the way, there were 1, 2 men who knew that I just play the helpless one, and I knew it that they knew it. But still, do you think I would have refused their help? …. Would YOU leave me alone? Please…Don´t break my innocent heart…

          Of course I would not leave you alone. A gentleman always goes to the aid of a lady in distress even if that distress is an act.

          I met my ex-boyfriend playing “vampire”. Of course he was in the “wrong” clan and on my first evening he wanted to cut me in half with a claymore. I had just joined and at once I was declared prey of blood hunt, ONLY because I had helped to destroy another vampire. Who would have thought vampires are so fussy and resentful? Pff.

          What a rocky road to a relationship. But they say flowers can bloom out of chaos, or in this case a claymore slicing you in half.

          Vampires are tremendously resentful. That is why so many of us live alone.

          Now you surly want to know if I allowed somebody near my own neck? Although I was always the aloof one, yes, I granted this favor to one. (How often did you already imagine to nibble on my neck, mh? :p Do I see a guilty smile flashing across your lips? Ha.)

          Indeed, sharing your blood is not an act to be taken lightly, especially when you get old and the blood is so very powerful. It is an act to share only with those who you accept into an intimate and trusted circle. At least, that is how I increasingly come to see it.

          My dear, I think your words are intended to create a path to send my thoughts right to such things as nibbling. I cannot be held accountable for the way the imagination wanders, surely.

          YOU know FF 7? If I wouldn´t adore and love you already, now I would do it!

          I indeed know it. And, in fact, I purchased it again only a few months ago since they released it in the Playstation Network for the new consoles. It was a necessary purchase.

          I still remember the first time I had to fight the Ultimate Weapon. It comes out of the water and then all of a sudden, the infernal Playstation (the original) freezes and shuts down. The memory card was corrupted. I had to start the entire game all over again. It was one of those rare moments my temper almost had me throw the thing from a window.

          Awww that’s a wonderful passion you share with me. Of course I know Dragon Age, the Elder Scroll series, and Oblivion, but just by name or some trailers. Wanna tell me about it?

          They are all your typical Medieval fantasy style game with monsters and magic, warriors and rouges. I prefer Dragon Age: Origins because the game allows for a very diverse character origin. There are about five or six different origin stories to give every character a background. Sadly, I only need to get three more trophies and then I am done with the game. Whatever shall I do?

          Well, of course I prefer Japanese men. XD I’m absolutely boring and just hetero. But I know what you mean and I share your opinion.

          I have also myself always liked Japanese men. Klaha is certainly amongst those beautiful few, especially considering how lovely voice, as well. Kenichi Matsuyama, as well, because I thought he was just too wonderful in Detroit Metal City and both of the Gantz movies.

          Naturally there is also Mizushima Hiro, Matsuda Ryuhei, and Masanobu Andou.

          Yep, and the best thing is he doesn’t know he’s been punished with me. Will you be my bride’s father? I don’t have a father, so I’m in need of someone. lol.
          Santino has more than just one personality disorder, one reason I find him so funny.

          I would not suggest inviting me to the wedding. Not if you want your groom to live.

          OMG I adore you! *laugh * It’s terrible with me, isn’t it? Wanna protect me from him?

          Certainly! Save you from the horrible fate of marrying that zealous malcontent. You would be miserable. I think the charm of his cynicism and pseudo-sadism would go wearisome after a short while.

  5. You are right, Latin is very useful in science. It helped me a lot in botanic and also in physiology.
    How do people know how Latin was pronounced anyway? At school I learned the classical pronunciation but even that differed between schools and in the UK I had real difficulties to follow the lessons at first, because their pronunciation was so different.
    Well, I have to admit Latin turns into a frustration for my more and more often. I put so much time, love and effort in learning this language but I never really got the hang of it. That hurts my pride as homo novus 😉

    1. Fortunately, there are documents left behind that describe how sounds are to be pronounced. Thank every God ever constructed that our Grammarians were so very dedicated to their jobs, because they were quite precise in recording the Latin language and its various pronunciations. Romans really were also quite simplistic in that they liked to keep things simple and to the point. You could never find a group of more abrupt and precise people, which is why things like poetry and music was so very confusing to many Roman men. Essentially, Latin was meant to be a phonetic language, so there are is little within the alphabet to confuse or complicate.

      There is also some educated academic guessing employed, which uses some of the later languages based on Latin, primarily Italian. Italian is very important to understanding the Romans because our “Latin” spoken language was much more similar to Italian than our written Latin language.

      If you would like resources (for the sake of academic interest), I can recommend:
      http://archive.org/details/latinpronunciati00taferich
      http://www.ai.uga.edu/mc/latinpro.pdf

      1. I had no idea there was so much material about Latin pronunciation. The pdf and the book (as far as I have read it) are really interesting. They answered some of the question I never asked in class.
        What fascinated me most was the description of how the language changed even during ancient times. All languages change but I never was aware of this in regards of Latin.
        I also loved the explanation how sounds and changes of sounds can be reconstructed using spelling mistakes. But it makes sense of course.
        when I read how the Latin language changed over time I also remembered a funny finding I made last month:

        Catullus made fun of acertain Arrius is his Carmen 84:

        Chommoda dicebat, si quando commoda vellet
        dicere, et insidias Arrius hinsidias,
        et tum mirifice sperabat se esse locutum,
        cum quantum poterat dixerat hinsidias.
        Credo, sic mater, sic liber avunculus eius,
        sic maternus avus dixerat atque avia.
        Hoc misso in Syriam requierant omnibus aures:
        audibant eadem haec leniter et leviter,
        nec sibi postilla metuebant talia verba,
        cum subito affertur nuntius horribilis:
        Ionios fluctus, postquam illuc Arrius isset,
        iam non Ionios esse sed Hionios.

        Matrialis “De spectaculum liber” 4

        …traducta est, ingens l nee cepit harena nocentis,
        et delator habet quod dabat exilium…

        It looks like the Romans had as much quarrels about talking and writing “properly” as the people of today.

        1. I do so love that particular Catullus piece. I truly did laugh out loud at the ending.

          Romans were quite picky about language because we were particular about everything that was “Roman.” The Latin language was a mark of our “Romanness” as it was, a marker of our talent as a public speaker, and as you know excellent rhetoric was a skill every father tried desperately to instill in his son. A job in the civic sphere was one of the highest stations any boy and man could hope for, and to do that you had to know how to sway a crowd with your words. We took great pride in our language.

  6. Romans were quite picky about language because we were particular about everything that was “Roman.” The Latin language was a mark of our “Romanness” as it was, a marker of our talent as a public speaker, and as you know excellent rhetoric was a skill every father tried desperately to instill in his son. A job in the civic sphere was one of the highest stations any boy and man could hope for, and to do that you had to know how to sway a crowd with your words. We took great pride in our language.

    Are you a good speaker then? Do you enjoy it? I for my part quite like talking in front of others although I don’t claim to have had any rhetorical training. Next week I’ll do a presentation about a scientific paper in English. At first I was enthusiastic but my mouth and tongue aren’t very cooperative. I spent the morning practising how to pronounce words like “synthase” and “histone dacetylase” and “fumonisin mycotoxin”. But there won’t be any native speakers present, so I still have hope. No, seriously, I bet it’s going to be fun.

    1. I am a wonderful public speaker; I was trained in the highest level of rhetoric and public oration. I was taught how to make my voice measured and refined, how to hold my body to evoke respect and authority, yet also hint at a certain gentleness to suggest sophistication rather than base aggression. I learned how to make sure my voice carried. If there were any mysteries to unlock about how to speak in public, I was certainly tutored in it. I suppose my father had high hopes for me that I did not live up to. I did not have the stamina for living a static public life. I craved more.

      Why must you present your science paper? Is it part of the assignment? Or are you participating in an academic conference?

      But my those are terrible words to say. I think even my tongue would trip through them.

  7. I would want to immediately begin to eat.
    I would without a doubt not want to stay human. I like being strong, being immortal. There is nothing in this world that anyone could offer me that would make mortality worth what I would lose.
    I suffer my fate from time to time, but I have also come to prize it.

    What would you eat? The food is different form your time. So I wonder if you would like it.

    Ah but that is Beowulf. One glance and I see the name “Grendel.”

    Indeed. I thought that could be a great hint. So of course you are right.

    That I am wise.

    Lol. True. Ah, but you have a lot of knowledge and experience. That´s almost so cool as wisdom.

    Of course I would not leave you alone. A gentleman always goes to the aid of a lady in distress even if that distress is an act.

    Really? Even you would know I´m just using you?? You would still stick on my side? …

    What a rocky road to a relationship. But they say flowers can bloom out of chaos, or in this case a claymore slicing you in half.
    Vampires are tremendously resentful. That is why so many of us live alone.

    Yes, we had a good time and I loved his eyes so very much. And he was such a diabolic and clever „vampire“. It was no surprise that I found my boyfriend in that way. It fits me and my life. The most of my closes freinds have something to do with vampires. The first persons who was nice to me where the vampire players.

    But not always alone. There are always times during each decade that you share your life with another person.

    Indeed, sharing your blood is not an act to be taken lightly, especially when you get old and the blood is so very powerful. It is an act to share only with those who you accept into an intimate and trusted circle. At least, that is how I increasingly come to see it.

    I think that its the perfect way to see it, Marius. So and If I wanna have your blood, I must beat you K.O. right? Muwahahaha. No problem. 😀

    My dear, I think your words are intended to create a path to send my thoughts right to such things as nibbling. I cannot be held accountable for the way the imagination wanders, surely.

    I don´t think you ever needed my words for that, my dear Marius. I´m the innocent here, remember? My words only confirm what your fantasy have done already. And? Were you in your fantasies tender to me?

    I indeed know it. And, in fact, I purchased it again only a few months ago since they released it in the Playstation Network for the new consoles. It was a necessary purchase.

    HA! Same here. XD Have I ever said that I love and adore you? XDDD

    I still remember the first time I had to fight the Ultimate Weapon. It comes out of the water and then all of a sudden, the infernal Playstation (the original) freezes and shuts down. The memory card was corrupted. I had to start the entire game all over again. It was one of those rare moments my temper almost had me throw the thing from a window.

    LOL. It is not funny, I know that. I would drive crazy when that would happen to me, I know how that feels like…but…OMG I must laugh so very much. And yes, I had throwed the PS out the window.
    I had the PS1 of the second generation without the, as we call it, all the childs sicknesses. Besides it was not so expensive as the first generation. Ok, still a asset, I had to ransack my  bank account , but it was less expensive as the first one. However, I never regret that I killed my account. I love my PS1 and the time with it was and is still great. (Of course it still works 😀 )

    To fight Ultimate Weapon was so very cool. In the front of Midgar where everything is so dark and dirty. (I love that city ^^) My fighting party was with Vincent (he is always in my team and he get all he power up goodies :D) and Red 13. Or instead of Red 13, Yuffi or Tifa. Depends on my mood. That only thing, that always getting on my nervs is the damn Cocobo breeding. But when you want some cool weapons and Materia (hheellooo Knights of the round, wanna kill Sephiroth just for fun in 10 minutes? 😀 ) you must have some colorful Cocobos. >.< (My black Cocobo have always the name “Armand“ XDDD But don´t tell him that. He shouldn´t know that a big chicken have his name.)

    Oohhh I must play that game again. XDD

    They are all your typical Medieval fantasy style game with monsters and magic, warriors and rouges. I prefer Dragon Age: Origins because the game allows for a very diverse character origin. There are about five or six different origin stories to give every character a background. Sadly, I only need to get three more trophies and then I am done with the game.

    Hmm that sounds quite interesting. I think that´s a game I would watch it when a friend play it. Ah I must check youtube out.

    I see not logical reason to hunt Trophies. You get nothing for a trophie. No extra ending, no costume, no music, no extra stage, any prize, whatever. For me, that´s just a waste of time, I play the game and when I get one, then I get one. I don´t care. However, I know that many loves that hunt. ^^

    Whatever shall I do?

    Play Xenogears, you can buy it the PS Network as well…for…9.99 dollars ( I know it because I have a US account ^^ That remides me…I must check out my “Home“ account. Its been a long time since I was in US ”Home”) . When you like FF7 you will adore this game.

    I have also myself always liked Japanese men. Klaha is certainly amongst those beautiful few, especially considering how lovely voice, as well. Kenichi Matsuyama, as well, because I thought he was just too wonderful in Detroit Metal City and both of the Gantz movies.
    Naturally there is also Mizushima Hiro, Matsuda Ryuhei, and Masanobu Andou.

    Masanobu Ando is the crazy beauty from the movie battle royal, right? Oh, that man is hot.
    Mizushima Hiro and Matsuda Ryuhei are very, very beautiful but I dont know them. Oh I almost forgot Sakurai Atsushi. He is adorable as well.

    I would not suggest inviting me to the wedding. Not if you want your groom to live.

    And If I would insist it? If I wanna have you on my side? You said, you would never hurt me. And that would hurt me, to become a widow that fast is not very cool. But that doesn´t mean that you shouldn´t break the tradition of the abduction of the bride.

    Certainly! Save you from the horrible fate of marrying that zealous malcontent. You would be miserable. I think the charm of his cynicism and pseudo-sadism would go wearisome after a short while.

    Do you think so? What do you think, why he brings my so much lust and amusement?

    * Laugh* Pseudo-sadism? You dont think he is a real sadist?

    But of course It would be nice if you were to protect me from my own demise, even I beg for it from time to time. So please safe me, try it, even I don´t want it, perhaps I would hate you for that, but don´t leave me alone.

    1. What would you eat? The food is different form your time. So I wonder if you would like it.

      I think you are right to wonder if I would like the food of today. I think a lot of it would be favourable to my tastes, but I do also imagine that the artificial flavouring and preservatives typical in today’s foods would be startling and not all together welcome. The amount of sugar in every food would also be strange. I think even bitter foods would be sweet to me.

      Really? Even you would know I´m just using you?? You would still stick on my side? …

      It would depend on the reason, of course. I would find out why exactly I am being “used.” If I am being taken advantage of, well I would not play along. But if the act is pretense for a sweeter reason, not to be cruel or selfish, and certainly not to take advantage of my kindness, I just may be agreeable.

      But not always alone. There are always times during each decade that you share your life with another person.

      My loneliness wins, or someone proves too charming to pass. These are but short moments. There is only one that I could spend eternity with and never tire of. Unfortunately, it seems our fate that we must wait decades for each period of happiness given. I would rather wait for her than use that time with someone else.

      I think that its the perfect way to see it, Marius. So and If I wanna have your blood, I must beat you K.O. right? Muwahahaha. No problem.

      I share blood with those whom I feel I can trust with it. As a mortal, its effects on you would be temporary. It is with other immortals that I must become increasingly discerning. In small doses my blood is nothing; it feels like fire and for a few minutes the world throbs against the senses. In large doses, well, that is just not a possibility but for a few. It would forever change the immortal, and I feel that most must become strong because they have lived long enough to make them so. Not because a powerful vampire came and gave blood. For the most part, I have also found that the majority of young immortals do not know what to do with the powers my blood gives them. I share my blood like a kiss, and a kiss only.

      And? Were you in your fantasies tender to me?

      Of course. Though, you see, even my most brutal fantasies are tender in a way.

      To fight Ultimate Weapon was so very cool. In the front of Midgar where everything is so dark and dirty. (I love that city ^^) My fighting party was with Vincent (he is always in my team and he get all he power up goodies ) and Red 13. Or instead of Red 13, Yuffi or Tifa.

      I rather liked Tifa. Though I didn’t often keep her in my party. Call me sexist. And I never kept Yuffi in my party because she was going to one day steal my materia. Moral of the story, of course, is to never make friends with women you find in the woods.

      And If I would insist it? If I wanna have you on my side? You said, you would never hurt me. And that would hurt me, to become a widow that fast is not very cool. But that doesn´t mean that you shouldn´t break the tradition of the abduction of the bride.

      Perhaps I could bring myself to attend. I think watching your groom suffer prolonged fear as he wonders when he will burst into flames would be sweet and most enjoyable.

      Do you think so? What do you think, why he brings my so much lust and amusement?

      * Laugh* Pseudo-sadism? You dont think he is a real sadist?

      I haven’t a clue. I can only say that there is no accounting for taste. Maybe because he is handsome and can string together pretty words? But you see, my dear, sociopaths are the most charming people you could ever meet because they know what to say to please someone, but they do not mean their niceties. It is merely said to get what they want, to make someone trust them and put their guard down.

      Santino is a sadist, but he is one in a cruel and dangerous way. Yet he tries to present it as something that makes him sensual, and his danger exciting rather than deadly. He is not a vampire to place any trust in.

  8. I am a wonderful public speaker; I was trained in the highest level of rhetoric and public oration. I was taught how to make my voice measured and refined, how to hold my body to evoke respect and authority, yet also hint at a certain gentleness to suggest sophistication rather than base aggression. I learned how to make sure my voice carried. If there were any mysteries to unlock about how to speak in public, I was certainly tutored in it. I suppose my father had high hopes for me that I did not live up to. I did not have the stamina for living a static public life. I craved more.

    That’s good for your students. Listening to someone who doesn’t ahve at least a little skill in speaking for 90 min can be a torture, no matter how interesting the topic.
    Was you father angry with you when you choose to write about history and travel instead of spending your days on the rostra?

    Why must you present your science paper? Is it part of the assignment? Or are you participating in an academic conference?

    But my those are terrible words to say. I think even my tongue would trip through them.
    Everyone got a paper published in the recent years they had to read and present in front of the professor, the tutors and the other students. You can say, we pretended being at a conference. I had a really interesting paper about the epigenetic control of toxine genes and breaking things down to what is realy important comes natural to me anyway. Besides, I admit I enjoy it if I can talk and everybody else has to listen 😉
    It went well, very well even. The only word making trouble funnily turned out to be “reproduce”.

    1. That’s good for your students. Listening to someone who doesn’t ahve at least a little skill in speaking for 90 min can be a torture, no matter how interesting the topic.
      Was you father angry with you when you choose to write about history and travel instead of spending your days on the rostra?

      The answer to that is both yes and no. On one hand, he would have liked for all of his sons to pursue political career to elevate the status of the family. And certainly had my father wanted to, he could have exercised his authority over me as head of the family and forced me to enter politics whether I liked it or not. Paterfamilias, after all.

      Yet on the other hand, I think he didn’t want to be cruel or harsh, or force me to live a life I didn’t want to live. He had other sons, certainly, who all served in the military and then held various levels of civic office. I was in the military, and found it tremendously boring and dirty. I liked politics, though I preferred to study them and to debate them. I did not want to stay in one place for any extended period of time to serve in office, or perhaps be sent to some remote place I did not want to go. True, I spent most of my life in remote corners of the empire, but it was always by my choice and for my pleasure.

      Everyone got a paper published in the recent years they had to read and present in front of the professor, the tutors and the other students. You can say, we pretended being at a conference. I had a really interesting paper about the epigenetic control of toxine genes and breaking things down to what is realy important comes natural to me anyway

      Was it a paper entirely done on your own unique and independent research?

      1. Wasn’t Roman military service horribly long (about 25 years)? Or am I mistaken now? I think I must be.
        Back then, what was the strangest and most exotic part of the world you had seen?

        Oh no, you misunderstood, the paper wasn’t about anything I have done myself. It was from a group in Italy. The presentation was only an exercise for the future and the papers we used were all about topics we had learned about in our course.
        But in March I’ll start to write my Bachelor’s thesis. I’m so excited already 🙂

        1. The length of military service grew longer and longer as the years went on. It went from six to twelve to twenty. But this was for those who were to be career soldiers. There were men who served in the military for shorter periods, as it was necessary for things like marriage and public office, but never served with the purpose of becoming a career soldier.

          Back then, what was the strangest and most exotic part of the world you had seen?

          It was when I met some of the nomadic African tribes in North Africa. They were not from the North African region, but had travelled through to the north as they did from time to time to trade. I was fascinated by everything about them. Had it been safe, I would have wanted to see their homes.

          I also liked the hairy, dark barbarians of the east. They were always quite hospitable to me when I met their settlements. Their ways were crude and strange, but their food was good and they always had a lot of fun.

          But in March I’ll start to write my Bachelor’s thesis. I’m so excited already

          Have you begun to do anything for it in preparation?

  9. The length of military service grew longer and longer as the years went on. It went from six to twelve to twenty. But this was for those who were to be career soldiers. There were men who served in the military for shorter periods, as it was necessary for things like marriage and public office, but never served with the purpose of becoming a career soldier.
    Then it makes sense. If every Roman man would have been in the military for 20 years nobody would have been there to perform all the other tasks necessary for an empire to work.
    One had to be a soldier before marriage?

    It was when I met some of the nomadic African tribes in North Africa. They were not from the North African region, but had travelled through to the north as they did from time to time to trade. I was fascinated by everything about them. Had it been safe, I would have wanted to see their homes.

    I also liked the hairy, dark barbarians of the east. They were always quite hospitable to me when I met their settlements. Their ways were crude and strange, but their food was good and they always had a lot of fun.
    Sounds fanscinating 🙂 Did you ever suffer something like a cultural shock during your journeys?

    Have you begun to do anything for it in preparation?
    Yes. Yesterday I received my own key for the institute and the labs together with the first load of material to read through. First of all I’ll make a plan of what I need to read and try to work on a structure for the chapters of the theoretical work I have to do before the actual experiments start.

    1. Then it makes sense. If every Roman man would have been in the military for 20 years nobody would have been there to perform all the other tasks necessary for an empire to work.
      One had to be a soldier before marriage?

      There was no law in place that said a Roman man had to serve in the military before he could marry. It was rather culture and mere expectation that necessitated some span of military service.

      Firstly, to hold political office required a number of years of military service. Most boys would join the military around the age of 17, though sometimes younger. We hardly had birth certificates to prove age, so it was a minor and often overlooked formality to be “of age.” A man would then usually get out of the military around the age of 25 to 30. For example, if one wanted to hold the office of Quaestor, a minor starter political office, one had to have at least 10 years of military service. So if a man had any aspirations toward political office, he would have to spend a portion of his life in the military.

      Secondly, it was simply the culture of the time that placed great importance on military service. No Patrician man wanted to marry off one of his precious daughters to a man who had never served in the military and thus could never hold political office. Roman fathers wanted marriage alliances military men, political men, powerful men, influential men because all of these factors were indelibly intertwined. Military men were the political men, and the powerful and influential men.

      Sounds fanscinating Did you ever suffer something like a cultural shock during your journeys?

      It always took me time to accustom myself to the inelegant manners of barbarian peoples, but they were all charming in their own way. After a while, it was even quite fun to watch their raucous dinners and parties, to take part in their bizarre and crude festivals, and to listen to their strange barbarian languages. I especially enjoyed it when they would tell me their history, and of their Gods.

      1. This sounds as if the life plans of patricians were very monotonous. I know the idea of individuality and self-realistaion is rather new tough.

        Which part of “civilisation” did you miss most?
        I suppose you never guessed you’d meet one of thiose gods in person, did you?

        1. This sounds as if the life plans of patricians were very monotonous. I know the idea of individuality and self-realistaion is rather new tough.

          It was at the same time horribly monotonous and detestably decadent.

          Which part of “civilisation” did you miss most?

          I miss Rome. That one is obvious. Also, I miss the Renaissance, which took the lustre of Rome and polished it to a degree that made it shimmer and gleam. I miss the ages in which beauty and art were taken seriously and not for granted. When people cared about such things. It was an age to suit my tastes perfectly, not like this one that I find increasingly purposeless and empty.

          I suppose you never guessed you’d meet one of thiose gods in person, did you?

          No never! I never thought to meet a God, or to lose my life in the name of unwillingly becoming one.

  10. I miss Rome. That one is obvious. Also, I miss the Renaissance, which took the lustre of Rome and polished it to a degree that made it shimmer and gleam. I miss the ages in which beauty and art were taken seriously and not for granted. When people cared about such things. It was an age to suit my tastes perfectly, not like this one that I find increasingly purposeless and empty.

    I think I know what you mean. More than half of the books I read during the last years were written in the 19th century and I’m under the impression that life now is incredibly superficial compared to back then. But I also think that this is a feeling peopel of all times had. This “Things aren’t what they were and today’s generation is good for nothing”, I mean. It’s frustrating to see that what you feel and what you love is disregarded by the rest of the world. But it’s your life and also your choice. If you want to treasure arts and beauty nobody can hinder you 😉

    1. You are entirely too right to feel that way. People do not question theology and philosophy. Intellectual questions fall to the wayside. The expression and examination of the soul and conscious (indeed even conscience) are lost on the individual who cares increasingly less. People used to value wit and cleverness.

      1. Or they care too much and turn into insufferable cynics. Sometimes I think lots of people feel like lost children inside.
        Do you there’s a way to change all this?

        1. Often no. Because there is little desire or will on the part of the person who should seek change, or at least help.

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